Wednesday, February 17, 2010

The New Titans #86(May 1992)

Sure this scene doesn't exactly make Deathstroke look all that good, but as a fan of Dick Grayson, how could I resist posting this?

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  1. Damn, Grayson was taking it to Slade. What'd he do, Slade that is. I know he was disappointed for what happened with Grant obviously.

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  2. Lmao. I don't know why this scene is so funny. I don't know if its the fact that Slade is getting his ass whooped or the fact that Grayson is trying sooo hard and mad Slade isn't fighting back.

    Nice pick X.

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  3. I think the thing that makes this scene so funny is Dick trying so hard to look like a real badass, Falisha. I'm sorry, but that's really not in his character. You're never going to mistake Dick for Wolverine, that's for sure!

    This scene takes place a few issues after Slade kills Jericho actually, JT. Jericho was evil, or possessed or an alien or on drugs, or something stupid, and Slade ends up having to run him through with a sword to kill him, which unsurprisingly pisses Mr. Grayson off something fierce. Oh, and just so you know, Slade pretty much ends the fight with one throw the very next page!

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  4. Ah. I so thought this was after Grant, I forgot Slade killed Jericho. I'm surprised Slade did that to Dick, if you recall Dick thinks "He won't hurt me!!!" Lol.

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  5. He'll still be the guy who wore green pants and no leggings as a red breasted bird ;)

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  6. I think you're right X. Because when I first looked at it and read it, I was thinking to myself, who is this wanna be bad ass. Then a light bulb appeared, and Grayson popped in my head and it made me laugh even harder. lol. I guess the leather jacket was a bit much and cliche. He knows better going up against Deathstroke.

    Lol @ Nagash that image will never be erased from who Grayson is. lol

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  7. Ha yeah JT, I guess Dick doesn't know Slade as well as he thinks he does!

    You know Falisha, I hadn't even noticed the leather jacket... How can Dick possibly wear a leather jacket while wearing that ridiculous shirt of his underneath it?!?

    Ha, that's the thing with Dick, Nagash, to some people, he'll ALWAYS be, "that kid who ran around with Batman in a speedo and green pixie slippers".

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  8. Lol. The leather jacket was the FIRST thing I saw. I guess I really do examine the art more than the average reader. Lol. And what I want to know is how he could possibly even wear that ridiculous shirt and pant mess of an outfit. lol.

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  9. That's got to be the artist in you, Falisha, because I'm just the opposite. A lot of times, I'll read something and completely miss out on a visual que, because I'm so engrossed by the story.

    Ugh, Dick's first Nightwing outfit was simply terrible! A flaired collar along with yellow feathers!?! Sheesh, I don't know what Alfred was drinking when he came up with that one...

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  10. Same here guys, I didn't notice the jacket until I saw you guys talking about it. That's weird. Alfred was thinking back to his Jolly old English ways, he should've gave Grayson an Americanized Black Leather Jacket with a big bird on the back.

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  11. Yeah I'll admit X, it's the artist in me. I'm always looking for hints in the artwork or significant background information.

    And Alfred must/ have saw some bad Brady Bunch Movies or Elvis videos to make that outfit up for Grayson.

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  12. That's actually pretty interesting... I'm going to ask a few fellow comic book readers how much they notice the art/background, just to see what they say. I get the feeling that most people are probably like me and JT, while someone like Falisha, who has some real artistic skills pays special attention to the artwork. I've always said, I don't even notice the art in a comic unless it's really good, or really bad.

    The image of Alfred sitting all alone in Wayne Manor stitching up Dick's first Nightwing outfit while watching the Brady Bunch with Elvis playing in the background is somewhat disturbing to me...

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  13. I'm intgerested in what you're going to find from your surveying of your comic book readers. And thanks for the complement. :D See there you go being sweet and adorable. Lol.


    Lol @ that image X. I would HONESTLY hope he didn't have that combonition going at the same time. Either of those on their own is quite disturbing just because he's Alfred.

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  14. "See there you go being sweet and adorable." What can I say, I just can't help myself! ;-)

    Hey, after living with Bruce for so long, you've got to think Alfred's sanity is hanging on by a thread... If I dealt with half the crazy stuff he has, I think I'd be sitting in a cell in Arkham right next to the Joker!

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  15. Lol. It's all good X.

    And, I mean I understand that. But it's not like Alfred couldn't just take a day out, not like he's a slave. lol....is he? Lmao Jk. Alfred is a pretty tough old bird.

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  16. You know, I have to wonder what kind of a paycheck old Alfred is raking in... I mean with all the stuff he does for Bruce and the rest of the Bat-family, he's got to have like half of the Wayne fortune in his back account!

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  17. Why would he even need money?! WHERE WOULD HE SPEND IT?! What is there that Bruce won't even buy him, he shouldn't need like any money. Also does Bruce have no relatives at all? No aunts, uncle's, grandparents?

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  18. Lol. Alfred is spoiled by Bruce. He gets what he wants.

    Half the Wayne fortune? I would honestly go for Alfred owning at least 75%. he has earned it.

    And no JT Bruce has NO family, that's why he's so lonely and bad ass. lol. He has his bat family, that's all he needs.

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  19. It's actually funny that we're talking about Alfred and his pay, because I just read an older issue of Bats where Alfred says some good idea to Bruce, which prompts Bruce to tell Alfred that he's going to give him a raise, at which point Alfred says something like, "That's the third raise this year.", so yeah, Alfred must be LOADED!

    You know, I never really thought about Bruce and extended family... Since Alfred wound up with custody of him after his parents deaths, I have to guess he has no family at all, because why else would the butler get the kid?

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  20. That's what i was thinking about him having no other family, just seemed kinda funny that out of all their friends they just left their kid to the guy who cleans up.

    Lol @ the third raise this year, I swear Bruce is gonna be broke by the time he hits 45 years old. All this stuff he has must be expensive as hell.

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  21. Maybe his parents didn't trust other family members. I mean you can only imagine the number of "relatives" that pop up trying to get in on the good side of the Wayne's in hopes of receiving some cash. And it would be one of the cases where if a family member did adopt him, they may abuse and misuse him.

    Alfred seems like a really good honest trustworthy person. Alfred was like family, Bruce was definitely left in the right hands.

    And third raise a year? Man, I wish I could get one every year. Lucky bastard! Bruce will NEVER get broke. I think Bruce has his money saved and well invested. You saw Batman Beyond! That man was still rich. Lol. :-P

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  22. "they just left their kid to the guy who cleans up." Ha! I love that description of how things shook out! I can see Child Protective Services saying, "Eh, just leave the kid with the guy who cleans up." I mean, I know Alfred is like uber-talented, but who knew he could raise a kid too!

    I do gotta agree with what you said about Alfred though, Falisha. The guy was working for the Wayne family for who knows how long, and he knew Bruce for his entire life. I guess after suffering through something as tramatic as Bruce went through, maybe CPS thought the best move was to leave little Bruce where he was most comfortable, and with the person who knew him the best.

    You know guys, I kind of wonder how Bruce has ANY money left! Just look at some of his wonderful toys! The Batmobile, the Batplane, the FLYING Batmobile, the Cave, the Manor, all of his assorted weapons/gadgets, Alfred, I don't know how he isn't completely broke!

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  23. Lol, I wonder if he has any left too. He's DC's Tony Stark and he's like Oliver Queen! Money just EVERYWHERE. I wouldn't be surprised if he had a small cave trailed off from the Batcave with money to the sky in a vault.


    One thing I can admit, I'm glad the money didn't go to his head. I mean I know he was a huge player and dated high class women and donated to charity and went to all the top parties, but he still is humble about his fortunes.

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  24. "I can see Child Protective Services saying, "Eh, just leave the kid with the guy who cleans up." Lmao I laughed SO hard at that. I was already laughing because Falisha mentioned Batman Beyond and Bruce was still rich as hell even in the future but that was the icing on the cake.

    That's the thing tough Falisha, his whole dating high class women and being a player thing is an act, but you'd think between all of that, donating to charity and Arkham Asylum and buying TONS of stuff as Batman he's gotta go broke sooner or later. I mean he has like 8 friggin Batmobiles, Batplanes, Batboats, hell he even paid for that big ass Superman/Batman composite robot! HOW DO YOU STILL HAVE MONEY?!

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  25. Heh, you know Falisha, you made me think of that old Ducktales cartoon, where Scrooge McDuck had that room full of money where he would swim around in. Maybe that's what Bruce does when he needs to unwind, takes a nice long money bath.

    I think the reason Bruce seems to have an unlimited supply of money is because he's so damn smart... In the Marvel Universe, the Fantastic Four went broke once, and Mr. Fantastic(the resident genius)simply created a whole mess of new items and sold them, remaking his fortune. I could easily see Bruce doing the same sort of thing. I mean, look at all the cool stuff he uses, I'm sure he's probably created all kinds of other things he's patented and sold to various companies, plus, since he's so smart, he can prob play the stock market like nobodies business!

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  26. Lol I loved that show. I can so imagine Bruce in his dollar sign trunks jumping into a huge pool of Gold coins.

    Good point, I never thought about that. Lol how did the Fantastic Four go broke? What the hell happened? Also, I picture Ben Grimm and Susan having a bake sale to raise money for some reason.

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  27. Lol. That would be AWESOME if he did have a room like that.Be even more awesome if I had a room like that. Coins sound painful, lol maybe some cash money, dollar bills!! :D

    Who wants to contribute to my room full of money? lol.

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  28. Ugh, I don't even remember how the FF went broke... I think it had something to do with the fact that they invaded Latveria against the orders of the government, so all of their funds were frozen... I think. Maybe?

    That's kind of true... Who would want to swim around in a pool full of gold coins. That doesn't sound very fun... Plus, imagine all of the places the coins would wind up going. Now I'd happily swim around in a pool full of dollar bills. THAT sounds way better!

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  29. Lol @ where the coins would go. That just sounds wrong. And Falisha, I'll gladly contribute to OUR room full of money. :)

    Ah, so this was following the Civil War thing X?

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  30. Ooo...that sounds painful of where the coins MAY go. lol. And "our" money room? A girl needs her place to relax. Girls(Falisha Ann) only!!! :)

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  31. HA!!! I love the way your shared money room once again became Falisha's money room, JT! Maybe if you're really good, she'll let you at least look at it!

    Actually, it was before the Civil War debacle(I love that word!). I'm sure of that.

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  32. lol. Maybe X, maybe. He may can come in to give me a massage or something. lol.

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  33. Lol I'll take a little each time then I'll have my own money room, aww yeah. You can come hang out X. Only reason I know X is because on Marvel Ultimate Alliance 2 they invade Latveria right before the big Debacle (that is a good word) that is the Civil War!!!

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  34. You really think you're going to be able to slip money out of my money room? You must not know about my connections with Batman...I'll have that place set up! booby trapped! (lmao booby)

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  35. Ah, you're talking about the Secret War mini-series, JT. I don't think the FF was involved with that particular invasion... Huh, Latveria sure does get invaded a lot...

    There goes Falisha, right back to the boobies again!!! :p

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  36. Hm...so wait, it's illegal to invade a foreign land and those dudes did it TWICE? Man they were just asking for trouble.

    Lol Falisha's obsessed. I think her mind is booby trapped. :P

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  37. lol. I just can't outrun boobs. lol

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  38. Yeah, people just kept invading Latveria... Then you wonder why Dr. Doom is always so pissed off!

    Hmm, shouldn't we be the ones with the booby trapped minds, JT?

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  39. Yeah, he's just kicked back on the couch chilling, drinking some herbal team through his mask, then you get the Fantastic Four busting down his wall while he's tryna watch the Lakers game!

    My mind is always booby trapped, why do you think I like Falisha's art so much X? :P

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  40. That's poor misunderstood Dr. Doom... All he really wants is to be left alone!

    Ahh, that does make a lot of sense JT.

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  41. I mean if you worked your whole life, went to college and got your Doctorate's in Doomology thwne I think you deserve a little piece and quiet in the country you run.

    Exactamundo, you see that PG and that Starfire? Top notch sir, top notch. lol

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  42. Huh, if I knew a school that was giving out doctorates in Doomology, I'd be enrolled there tomorrow!

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  43. Lol but would you be happy with four arch rivals?

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  44. If I was a Dr in Doomology, I'd learn to deal with having four arch rivals. :-)

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  45. It always bothered me that it takes four of them to beat one dude, there was one guy taking on four super powered villains suddenly it's unfair?

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  46. Yeah, but that's half the awesomeness of Doom right there, the very fact that he can actually stand against the FF, even though he's only one man.

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  47. Yeah but then again they have some pretty crappy powers. I mean one guy you can just drop in the lake, the other's human taffy, Torch you can just use a fire extinguisher on and Sue, well she's pretty bad ass but only because she can make force fields, the turning invisible thing isn't all that useful in a fight. You could see her footsteps depending on where the fight is...

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  48. I don't know if I'd say they have crappy powers. But then again, I'm a pretty big FF fan. For example, Mr. Fantastic's powers can be pretty good depending on how creative the writer is.

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  49. I should've rephrased that as not to offend any FF fans. What I meant to say is they have some pretty big flaws to their powers. And what are some interesting ways Reed has been written to portray his powers as being good?

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  50. Don't worry, there aren't all that many FF fans to offend! Reed's evil doppleganger would use his elasticity to smother his foes, and since he can't be stabbed, shot or punctured, once he's got you, there's pretty much no way to get him off. His doppleganger could also make his arms ultra thin and sharp to use them for cutting and stabbing... Huh, Reed's doppleganger is actually more creative then Reed is!

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  51. See...now THAT sounds awesome. Also how does he have an evil doppleganger? Do they all have those or just Big brain Reed?

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  52. During some big company-wide x-over in the early 90's there was an event called the Infinity War where some evil dude named Magus commanded an army of warped duplicates of several heroes into attacking them... Or something like that... It's been a couple of years since I last read that story.

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  53. And was this over those Infinity Gauntlets or whatever I always hear about when discussing Marvel? Man I must sound like a noob lol.

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  54. "Man I must sound like a noob lol." We all start out learning all of this comic book mumbo-jumbo somewhere! Hell, I'm still kind of noobish in some aspects of the DCU.

    And to answer that question, kind of. The Infinity War came after the Infinity Guantlet x-over, and did involve the Magus attempting to wrest control of the Guantlet away from its holder, Adam Warlock.

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  55. So what do the infinity gauntlets do exactly? I know they grant a ton of power or something but i've never known what exactly they do.

    And outta curiousity what DCU aspects are you noobish in? I'm sure I;m the same way.

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  56. The Infinity Guantlet imbues its holder with the power of a god. The Gauntlet contains 6 Infinity Gems, each containing crazy power. Let's see if I can still remember them all... The 6 Gems were: Reality, Time, Space, Mind, Soul and Power. Apart the holder would have complete control over that particular aspect(like if I had the Power gem I'd be stronger then Supes and Thor combined). Combining them would give the user control over every aspect of creation.

    For the most part I'm less knowledgable about Pre-Crisis stuff(the first Crisis from the mid-80's), as well as some recent(ish)x-overs like the Worlds at War stuff. The more you go backwards, the more holes I have in my knowledge... So I'm pretty good with the 2000's and 1990's, but start going backwards from there, and I start getting less and less knowledgable.

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  57. Damn that's pretty awesome. So what's up with the Infinity Gauntlet and the Gems as of now? Are they destroyed or missing or what?

    Pretty much the same for me, I know nothing about the Worlds at War and I don't know more than basic knowledge about the JSA.

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  58. Ugh... *sigh*... It's one of those things I don't like talking about... BENDIS took all of the gems and split them up amongst his idiotic Illuminati(what a horrid idea...)where they were eventually forgotten and never seen again... DAMN that BENDIS!!!

    Well, I'm a walking JSA encyclopedia! I'm even pretty up on my Golden Age JSA knowledge, which is pretty rare for me.

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  59. I'm almost afraid to ask... Who's his Illuminati consist of?

    And okay, so Dinah's mom was originally in the JSA correct? And GA was originally apart of the JSA right? But due to Infinite Crisis both he and Dinah are founding JLA members? And what about WW, wasn't she a founding JLA member?

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  60. Ugh... It's Mr. Fantastic, Dr. Strange, Namor, Iron Man, Prof. X and Black Bolt... Supposedly(according to BENDIS)these guys have been secretly manipulating the Marvel U since the beginning... That's the type of retroactive continuity that makes me tear my hair out, because I can probably come up with a frigging 10 page essay as to why that idea is completely and totally asinine...

    Hmm, Dinah's mom was def in the JSA, but I don't think GA was. And I know GA wasn't an original member of the JLA(niether was Dinah for that matter), because I actually have read the Showcase: JLA trade. Ollie was like the first non-member who joined up. But like you said, I'm not sure what changed thanks to the original Crisis(that would be Crisis on Infinite Earths, not Infinite Crisis, there is a difference, even though the similar names make things REALLY confusing!)... I think the beginning of the JLA stayed relatively similar after the first Crisis, which would mean WW IS still a founder, but with all of DC's crazy continuity, it's hard to keep it all straight!

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  61. So I'm supposed to believe that they just have meetings and plan an absurd amount of stuff out while manipulating damn near everything in the Marvel Universe? That just sounds stupid...

    I only ask because I recall reading that after Infinite Crisis, Canary was a founding member and WW joined later, which is why Canary is always ordering the JLA round when Supes/Bats aren't there, but I may be wrong.

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  62. It IS stupid! And in the context of Marvel history(which as you prob know, I'm obsessed with!)it made ZERO sense! It just doesn't make sense that these 6 men would bother sitting down plotting with each other... Except for Mr. Fantastic and Black Bolt, I wouldn't even call any of them friends, just acquaintances. Hell, half the time Mr. Fantastic and Namor are at each others throats, and usually everybody ignores Prof. X because he's a mutant! Plus if they were all so buddy-buddy, you'd think they would have been assisting each other on a more regular basis...

    Oh, I'm guessing you're talking about the Brad Meltzer relaunch of the JLA! I think... No, although BC was made the chairwoman, she wasn't one of the founders(although like I said, it's hard to tell with all of the games DC plays with their continuity). It just so happened she was chosen to be the leader. I think the JLA has a rotating leadership, so although BC was the leader at the time, eventually her time would be up and somebody else would take over... I think!

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  63. That's the first thing that popped into my head when you said that. If these guys have been having meetings for basically forever, why isn't Namor running off to help Stark or Reed coming to ave Prof. X every time he's getting his ass kicked?

    Ah, well thanks for the explanation because that always confused me. The rotating leadership sounds weird to me but out of the new league I'd assume Hal would be the leader right?

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  64. EXACTLY! If these guys are thick as thieves and all, you'd think they'd be better at sharing information and coming to each other's aid... But then again BENDIS could care less for continuity, so in a sick way, his Illuminati makes sense. In BENDIS-Land(a truly bizarre place)nothing happened in comic book before he started writing. There was no 1960's-1990's, there was only when BENDIS started writing. Everything else doesn't matter.

    Yeah, from the Cry for Justice books that I've read(hopefully I'll have the last one later this week), it def seems that Hal has taken the point.

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  65. Bendis....man that guy. I mean...I don't even have words. It's like he's a walking talking "Crisis on Infinite Earths" or something.

    Speaking of that how'd you like being written by bendis in Kello's comics X? Or should I say Hottie X-Man75? Lol

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  66. BENDIS is more like a walking Crisis period!

    You see?!?!?! Even over at Kello's site BENDIS won't stop messing with me! BENDIS... ARRRGH!!!

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  67. Lol @ a walking Crisis. I agree with ya there. bendis and Benes, writing you had me laughing so hard dude. All they needed was a talking monkey and you would've blown a gasket :P

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  68. Oh man, thank god Kello didn't add a talking monkey! You're right, that would have probably driven me completely insane!

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  69. Lol I can imagine it now, Mickey Mouse and the Epcot Kids vs. X-Man75 & Hit-Monkey!!!

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  70. Slade wilson is damaged goods nowadays As an enemy you’ve written pretty much everything in the terra betrayal storyline. unlike luthor joker darkseid or two face , he doesn’t cut it as a villain anymore ,as a morally grey adversary yes,but as a teen titans villain he made his time, MOVE ON dammit!
    & really deathstroke with a team ? making evil juice? beating the entire fucking league all by himself?
    BULLSHIT that’d be like joker drinking poison unharmed & talking without lips or batman not reacting when his “son” beats alfred & tim & bringing a decapitated head…oh wait morrison,nevermind
    Srsly though there’s suspension to disbelief,Deus ex machina & pulling shit out of your ass!!

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