I think it's kind of a shame that so much of Superboy's history has now been brushed aside. I hated this version of the character, but it's almost like there's no connection between his current conception and the 90's one.
I mean, it's easy to draw parallels between Superman's character today and the long haired version from the 90's, as they're obviously the same character. Superboy doesn't feel that way to me.
But now that I think about it, that's also true of Wonder Girl and Impulse. I'd like to think that it's due to them "growing up", but the storytelling doesn't feel that organic.
I'll just blame it all on Infinite Crisis and call it a night. Thanks for letting me think that one out loud, X-Man.
p.s. Can you do a Black Panther week or a classic Dazzler week sometime soon?
You know Kello, that's been my major complaint about Superboy for the longest time... We all know how much I love Geoff Johns work, but I HATE what he's done with SB... Like you stated, the current SB is practically NOTHING like the 90's one, and I may be in the minority, but I liked the jerky SB from the 90's. Of course there's nothing like the Impulse/Kid Flash/Flash/Kid Flash transformation... Don't even get me started on THAT!
I love the, "Blame it on Infinite Crisis" excuse! Next time I go to the Laundromat and I wind up losing a sock, I'm simply going to blame it on Infinite Crisis!
Man, Match sure has gone down hill. Seems like Inertia is the only good clone now days. Also, I did not know you took requests, lol. I'm still lobbying for a Venom week.
"Man, Match sure has gone down hill." Hasn't he though? How he went from the guy in this scan, to what he bacame, I have no clue. I guess cloning in the 30/31st century(Inertia's time)is way better then it is nowadays!
JT, right up in the banner I ask for requests! :p Since my brother has most of my older Spidey books, I'm not exactly sure how many Eddie Brock Venom appearances I have. I think I have most of his minis from the 90's, as well as a few sporatic appearances in odd books like Darkhawk, so I could do a Venom week, it would just take some digging. As it is, I'm kind of leaning towards Dazzler, since I don't think I've spotlighted any x-characters from the 80's yet. Who knows though, it all depends on what comics I decide to dig out tomorrow.
Ah got ya. :P I actually figured that, I just didn't wanna believe it. :( Lol jk Alrighty, well I wanna change my vote for an upcoming Marvel week to Sentry, I'd like to know a little more about that dude.
I was close to doing a Daken week actually, but I was just feeling too lazy to find his various appearances... That's why I ended up doing a Cable week, all of his comics were sitting in a crate, all in order. Yeah, I can be pretty lazy at times.
Ugh, that's right, Cable/Deadpool! I just pulled all of the solo Cable issues out... Well, maybe come Saturday I'll go and pull 2 or 3 Cable/Deadpool comics out and post 'em.
Do I have enough comics for a DEADPOOL week?!? Is the sky blue? Dude, I DEF have enough DP comics. I have his early New Mutants appearances, his X-Force stuff, his minis and his very rare series from the mid 90's. Oh yeah, I could def do a sweet DP week.
A Deadpool week would be really easy too, since I know exactly where my Deadpool comics are(right near the Cable ones). Hmm, A Deadpool week... I think I know what I'll be posting soon...
Looks like my plan of manipulating you for a Deadpool week worked. Looks like a certain Mr. Wade Wilson owes me 20 bucks!
Hm...now I just gotta see who ya pick for good ol DC week then BOOM! Deadpool appears. It'd be cool if this DC week was Deathstroke, since Deadpool is kinda based on him.
I guess I could do a Deathstroke week... The only thing stopping me is the fact that I'd have to go digging through like 7 different crates to find the various Slade books... Hmm, I could do two old Teen Titans, a Nightwing, an Identity Crisis, that Faces of Evil one-shot, the Last Will and Testament... Hey, you know what, I think I finally know which DC character I'll be spotlighting this week! Thanks buddy!
Awesome! Glad I could help, plus the comics you named have me looking forward to them even more. I loved his appearances in Faces of Evil, Last Will, and of course Identity Crisis. Glad I could help once again, consider that one of the two favors I owed ya! Lol jk.
Lol you have until April if I recall. Time is winding down mon frere. Hm... I just realized you took my advice on Deathstroke AND Deadpool week...looks like we know who's really running this blog. :P Lol jk
Yep, I'm entering in backwards words like Zatanna. !elur I. Lol I think you're just taking my advice because I'm really Triple H and YOU'RE Shawn Michaels. :P
Muahahahaha! Oh, I forgot to tell you. Raw was awful this week, and apparently some woman driver "hit Bret Hart" in the parking lot and smashed his leg between her car and the limo, so now he can't wrestle Vince or some stupid storyline. The dumbest part was they had the nerve to call it the worst Night of his life. Not when his Brother Owen died or not when he almost died from a Stroke but him getting fake hit with a car is the worst night of his life.
Ah well, I hate to say it, but that was def no shock to me. Like I've been saying all along, there is NO way Bret could EVER be cleared to wrestle again. The guys one slight bump on the noggin from being six-feet under. With his concussion history and the stroke, he could never safely work a match again, unless he was totally suicidal.
Ugh, I hate when the announcers do the whole really "serious voice" for something that's an obvious work like that...
Dude...there's this guy who writes articles named John Canton. I may link you to one of his reviews because you guys are so similar. Same joking manner in your reviews, he calls the serious voices ~SERIOUS VOICES!~ And I think you'd enjoy them.
You're right about Bret, I really hope they just go with the John w/ Bret vs. Batista w/ Vince thing. Oh, Ted Dibiase and Antonio Inoki are both being inducted into the WWE Hall of Fame.
Cool, I'd def give 'em a read. I kind of like the idea of Cena/Batista w/ Bret and Vince in the corners. Hell, add a stip to the match where the winner and his cornerman gets 2 minutes alone with the loser's cornerman, that way you could still get some physical closure to the Bret/Vince thing, without Bret having to work a match. Cena wins, hits Vince with the FU, and Bret smacks Vince with the ringbell, and locks on the Sharpshooter until Vince passes out. Makes perfect sense to me, plus gives the longtime fans the Bret/Vince confrontation one final time.
I love that Dibiase is getting his due. He was def about 10 years ahead of his time. Hell, his gimmick was SO good, JBL wound up reusing it and it was STILL gold! Great in the ring and on the mic, the Million Dollar Man was awesome. Can't say I've ever seen one of Inoki's matches though... I've heard of him, but I can't recall ever seeing his work.
The stip with those them getting time with the losers cornerman is genius. That'd definitely be a great stipulation to add.
I've also heard of Inoki but never seen any of his matches either. I agree that Dibiase is one of the best characters of all time dude. That belt is just one of the reasons why he's one of the best. Who makes their OWN BELT with diamonds?! There's also rumors of Stu Hart also getting inducted this year, hell OWEN should be inducted.
Yeah, the Million $ Belt was an awesome idea. I also love that he screwed Hogan out of the title with crooked referees, which let Andre beat Hogan, and then PAID Andre money to give him the title! That was an awesome storyline, especially for back in the day.
I've said it before, but I'll gladly say it again, Owen was one of, if not my all-time favorite wrestler. He could rival Bret in pure technical wrestling, while having Bret beat on the mic, and athletically. Even though he never held the big title, I'd def rank him in the HBK/Angle area when it comes to all around talent.
Exactly. That's stuff you'd expect to see in the attitude era or something, so I can only imagine it back then. I love when he was gonna pay the kid to dribble the ball fifteen times then he kicks it away. Classic Heel.
I agree, he was such a great athlete and he was awesome. The Black Hart thing is just genius and I loved when they teamed him up with British Bulldog. That's a hell of a tagteam, especially with Cornette Managing.
That segment is one of the first things I think back to when I think of Dibiase, the kid and the basketball... That was one of the best heel tactics I think I've ever seen! I LOVE the look on the kids face after Dibiase kicks the ball away... Man, that is some awesome stuff.
I always thought it was a shame that Vince never seemed to have the confidence that Owen could run with the WWF(E) championship. There were so many times he could have gotten that title(Bob Backlund's quickie reign was the perfect spot)... I would have taken Owen as the champion any day over the horrible face Diesel reign from the mid-1990's...
Yup, the Diesel character was one that should have stayed heel. He had the look, the attitude, everything about Nash back then screamed "heel!", but Vince saw a big guy, and decided to make Diesel into this terrible face... Kind of like Cena actually. I still say Cena would work ten times better as a heel. And just because I'm such a wrestling nerd, I'll give you the story on where I think Owen should have won the title. Bret was defending the belt against Backlund at a PPV(Survivor Series, blanking on the year tho)in a towel match, where the only way to win was if your corner man threw in the towel... Yeah. Owen was in Backlund's corner, and I think Stu Hart was in Bret's. Bret ends up getting trapped in the crossface chicken-wing, and is in it for like(no exageration)10 minutes! Owen pleads with Stu to throw in the towel for Bret's health, but Stu won't, so Owen convinces his mother, who was at ringside to take the towel from Stu and throw it in, ending the match and giving Backlund the title. Then like 1 or 2 nights later, at a house show, Diesel beats Backlund in like 7 seconds to win the belt. I'll never get why they didn't have Owen take the belt from Bret(he's already proved he could beat him at WM 10), and then have Owen and Diesel start a program for the strap while Bret was "injured". That way Vince could have still given the belt to Nash, like he wanted, but you also would have tested out a longer run for Owen down the road, instead of hotshotting the title to Backlund who was WAY over the hill by that point. Just one more big missed opportunity I guess...
I remember seeing that. That's the perfect way to start a feud, you have Bret pissed at Owen and could work as the heel or easily have Own the heel saying he was looking out for Bret. That would be a awesome feud and a great way to start it.
Say what you will about Diesel's run but I loved his match with HBK when he lost it. Fantastic match, also a great match that I love for some reason is the Summerslam with HBK vs. Vader. Man that was such a good match in my eyes, perfect big man/little man match.
Yeah, but come on, back then, HBK could have a frigging classic with a broomstick! ;-) Then again, I guess he still can...
I remember that match, but for a few different reasons... First off, although I was a big fan of HBK as a kid, I REALLY wanted Vader to win the title there... He was on fire when he first entered the E, and I really thought he was going to go over Shawn. I hated the ending for that match(restarting the match like 3 times???), and I'll always remember the fact that Vader somehow sets up incorrectly for Shawn while HBK is up on the top rope, which leads to HBK hoping off and pretty much bitching Vader out in the middle of the match! That's like the main thing that stuck in my head about that match.
I'd watch Michaels wrestle a Broomstick, hell I could see that at Wrestlemania and not complain. :P
Lol I remember that match restarting three times and I admit that's stupid as hell, but I loved the athletic portion of that match. Vader is one of my favorite big guys along with Taker and Kane before he lost his mask. Also Shawn bitching out Vader was pretty damn funny, just because he's little HBK and Vader's so huge, but I'm glad Shawn's changed since then.
Speaking of that, did you ever see HBK vs. Hogan at Summerslam?
Ha! That's exactly the thing about Shawn screaming at Vader! I mean, if Vader wanted, he probably could have literally knocked HBK's head off! I totally agree about Vader too. His WWF(E) run should have been so much better. I'm still not sure why he never wound up with the gold...
Yeah, I did catch that one. I guess they're going to go a similar route booking the Taker/HBK match for Mania this year. Hotshot Shawn as a heel for this one angle, and then have him just go back to a face whenever he returns from his "retirement".
Vader's one of the few big guys that could move, I'd love to see him and Taker tear it up to be honest. And yeah, Vader could play the monster heel, or they could've teamed him up with a smaller dude like Owen and had a hell of a team on their hands.
I'm fine with Shawn playing a heel role. I think by adding the "retirement angle" that it still keeps him face because the fans that really like him will actually want him to beat the streak.
Okay, so remember that Hogan/HBK match, HBK was supposed to go over, and Hogan apparently claimed he hurt his knee moving so he was gonna call off the match. Then they changed it and said Hogan would go over so he decided to work the match, which pissed Shawn off, which is why if you watch the match Shawn is overselling everything Hogan does until the point where it's just funny. Like when he takes the big boot from Hogan he falls, gets up, runs in a circle then just falls again. I always thought Hogan was a jerk for only working when he gets to go over.
Yeah, anybody who weighed about 400 lbs+ and could bust out a frigging moonsault was awesome in my book! Plus Vader had the look of a guy you just wouldn't want to piss off! I mean I know if he was coming at me, I'd sure as HELL run away!
Heh, I didn't know(or maybe didn't remember)that! Yeah, that's the problem with Hogan(and pretty much all of the top guys in WCW). The creative control clause... I mean, I know for a fact it was written in Hogan's WCW contract that he could veto anything he wanted, and before long a lot of guys(like Nash)ended up with a similar clause. No wonder WCW fell apart...
And although Hogan's probably the worst when it comes to deciding when and if he has to job, he's not the only one. I know Austin pulled that a few times, and let's not forget about HBK's infamous, "lost smile"...
Yeah Big Van Vader, the man who's eye popped out during a match and he finished the match. That's one tough SOB. But man, they brought him back in like 05 for some reason and when he got out of the ring he lost his balance and fell down and that was one of the funniest things I've seen on RAW since The Rock left.
I'd heard about Austin not wanting to job to Lesnar which is fair because Austin's earned that right and Lesnar had only been in the WWE for a year and we see how that ended up. And HBK was an ass in the past, we all know that, but for Hogan to not wanna lose to Michaels who's been in the business for over 20 years is just crazy, It's not like it would hurt Hogan. He's lost to guys like Rock and Angle and Trips and it hasn't diminished his worth, ya know?
Eh, I get Austin's arguement about Lesner, but still, does it really matter if you lose? That's prob the thing that bugs me the most about top guys not wanting to job, it's not like a loss is going to take away you chance to main event Wrestlemania or anything! I can understand guys who are lower down the ladder, or who aren't over with the fans not wanting to job, but come on, if a guy like Cena jobbed for 4 straight weeks, would that really hurt his status in the eyes of the fans? He'd still be getting promo time, and he'd still be at or near the top of the card. The way I see it is if you're a top guy and you're told to job, then do it, because most likely some older guy jobbed for you to help you get over.
Oh, and I watched some highlights from the HBK/Hogan match again on Youtube to refresh my memory, and DAMN was HBK LOL funny! The best part is when HBK is flying all over the place in the ring, and King says something like, "Maybe Shawn has TOO much energy tonight..."
I agree with you, thats like the month before he won the title Jericho jobbed to Morrison, and a few other people and I recall him even letting JTG of Cryme Thme get a win over him, now he's the World Champ and it didn't hurt him, hell it helped JTG and didn't damage Jericho at all.
Lol right?! I loved when he was on the ropes and Hogan kicks him and he flies like two feet up. That was awesome. HBK oversold so much it just turned into a comedy match.
Exactly. That is a perfect example. If anything, that makes the midcard look EVEN stronger, because now you'll get some fans thinking, "If JTG(for example)could beat Jericho then, maybe he can do it again for the title!". On the other hand, if you've got a guy like Austin, who wouldn't job to some wrestlers, if he fights somebody like Morrison for the title, there ain't NOBODY who is going to give Morrison a snowball's chance in hell of beating Austin. Now if Jericho would fight Morrison for his title, maybe you'd get a few fans to buy into the fact that Jericho's title could be in some serious jeopardy.
Man, there were SO many hilarious parts to that match... Besides the Big Boot, there was when Shawn was on the apron, Hogan punches him, and HBK goes flipping off the apron onto the floor. HBK looked like a rubber ball out there with the way he was bouncing all over the place!
That's why I hate that guys like Triple H BARELY job. Remember Shelton beat Trips Twice? That was awesome and made everyone take him seriously. If they let someone like Kofi get a win over a huge star like Trips or HBK it'd make him look great and everyone would believe he's a credible threat for the belt whereas it won't diminish Trips or HBK, it's like Jericho's the only top guy that doesn't mind losing cleanly.
Man, I loved HBK so much after seeing the highlights of that. It's already kinda absurd that someone Hogan's age that not as in shape as someone like Flair could even hang with HBK in the first place, then it just became a huge joke.
Yeah, if you have a company full of guys who won't job to younger talent, or who only lose thanks to shenanigans, you won't be able to build up the next big star... Guys like HHH, HBK, Taker, Cena and Jericho are all at a point where they could easily absorb losses and not be diminished in the process.
It's almost like Shawn was saying, "I know this guy can't do anything in the ring, so I'll just fight myself." I mean, really, at that point in his career, what was Hogan able to do in the ring? My guess is some sad looking punches, a headlock, the Boot and the legdrop. In a way, it's like HBK was proving that he could LITERALLY have a good match with a broomstick!
I agree dude, Sheamus as much as I hate it beat Cena for the belt and it didn't hurt Cena at all yet made Sheamus a main eventer over night. If Edge or Jericho or someone let Kofi or Morrison beat them they could EASILY be at the top of the card. Hell they don't even have to win. Remember that awesome match in 2005 with HBK and SHelton? They went like 15 minutes and made Shelton look like a million bucks.
He could BARELY do the legdrop dude. I'm convince HBK, Jericho and Angle can carry damn near ANYONE to a amazing match. Imagine those three in a triple threat match, it'd be amazing.
Btw whats your favorite Triple Threat? Mine are the one from Sumemrslam with Trips/Rock/Angle and the one from Vengeance 2002 where Rock won his 7th WWE Title with Rock/Angle/Austin because it was in Detroit and I got to go and it was awesome.
Yeah, but that's another problem... Even if a guy like Sheamus or Shelton or Kofi and Morrison for that matter gets put over by say Jericho, they need to maintain some of their momentum. Looking back, Shelton's wins over guys like HBK and HHH never really amounted to anything because his pushes were always so half-hearted. One week he's putting on an awesome match with HBK, while the next he's jobbing to some midcarder. Or he'll get a big win over HHH, and then he's stuck in a go nowhere tag team... If the E is going to push somebody, they need to REALLY push somebody! Look at a guy like Cena. He was getting big wins against Big Show, JBL for the title, HHH, you name it, he beat them. Same with HHH(even though in his fantasy world, nobody helped him get over), he beat the hell out of Vince, before going on the fight Mick Foley in a couple of awesome matches, before being the first heel to win the main event at Mania like ever!
Hmm, I'm not sure I can think of a favorite triple threat match off the top of my head... Huh, I'll have to give that some thought...
Once again Excellent point dude, if you're gonna push someone be consistent. I hate when you depush or just like make a dumb mistake. Like they have Drew Mcintyre who's pretty much been undefeated for five months, beat Morrison for the IC belt, Sunday he beat Kane to retain it by cheating then on Smackdown the have Kane beat him clean, with a big boot. Not even a chokeslam! You build this guy for five months and have him lose to a big boot. What semse does that make?
Oh, on RAW tonight for some reason I don't understand they announced Bret vs. Vince at Mania even though Bret is still in his "cast" Also the MITB so far has Shelton Benjamin, Christian, Dolph Ziggler, Kane for some reason, Jack Swagger and MVP, so two spots left.
I had to laugh at the whole thing about Kane beating this guy with a big boot, not even a chokeslam... What the hell kind of sense does that make?!? Who jobs to Kane's big boot??? Man, that's def weird... That's WWE logic for you I guess.
I really wonder where they're going with the whole Bret/Vince thing... I hope they don't pull some kind of bait and switch at Mania, because that would be pretty lame... Man, what's up with the Kane push? is it that time of year again where the E decides to suddenly and inexplicably push Kane? So who's your odds on favorite to win the MitB match out of the guys mentioned so far?
Yeah dude, he loses at the PPV for the IC Title but wins four days later to be in the MITB that he has NO CHANCE of winning to a big boot...
Im also wondering what the deal is, either this "Match" is gonna be more or Bret beating the hell outta Vince for five minutes or I don't know what to expect, Bret can't really bump can he?
I hate that the rumble comes and they act like Kane is a monster then after Mania he just goes back to jobber status again.
Um... I'd say, Ziggler has no chance since he had 7 IC Title matches in a row and lost them all and that was from like July-September. Swagger's been jobbing for months so nah, Kane is far past his prime, Shelton never wins, so the best bet is MVP or Christian and I'd go with CHristian. I'd say the last spots are for Kofi and maybe Morrison would win a last chance battle royal but my pick is definitely one of those three.
I wonder what the logic of putting Kane in that match even is... Like you said, he has literally ZERO chance to win, so why not put a younger guy in who could use the rub?
So far as I know, Bret can't bump at all. I know he suffered a severe concussion from Goldberg that retired him, and then he would up having a stroke after he fell of his bicycle or something like that. It's my understanding that after such a wicked concussion, any kind of jostle could give out another stroke, or worse... I mean, I'm not a doctor, so maybe I'm wrong, but I just can't imagine Vince risking a catastrophic injury to Bret...
You think they'd go with Christian? It just seems like Vince doesn't have all that much faith in him... Now I could easily see either of those last two guys winning it...
Right? That could so go to someone who needs the push rather than put Kane in a match he has no place in. And the Bret thing just has me confounded, I guess he could just destroy Vince for a long time. It'll be more of an angle than a match.
Well according to Smackdown results Big Show and Miz are defending the belts at Mania against Morrison and R Truth so Morrison won't be in. And Matt is in so one spot left and that's probably Kofi's spot. So Looks like it will be Christian or Kofi as MVP's been jobbing to Miz alot and Matt jobs to everyone.
Yeah, in a way it makes sense that Bret takes the match with Vince, pretends to be injured right up until he gets in the ring, where he can simply pull off the cast and be like, "Guess what, I'm all better!" before beating the everloving hell out of Vince. My only gripe is that for a feud/angle like the Bret-Vince thing, The E having no blood is going to really hurt that match, because common knowledge says that it should end with Vince laying in the middle of the ring a bloodied, broken mess. I kind of half figure that with Linda's senate campaign coming up so soon, Vince probably needs a reason to be off TV until November(you don't want him doing something stupid that could be used against Linda), and a vicious beating from Bret would be just the thing to put Vince on the sidelines for a while.
So now Morrison and R-Truth are a tag team? IDK, that kind of sounds like a step backwards for Morrison to me... Well, considering the guys you have listed there, I'd have to guess that either Swagger or Kofi is going to win it. Personally I prefer a heel winning it, because then they can run out and pretty much steal the belt from a tired, beaten champion, which is great heat. If Kofi were to win, I don't know how/when he would cash it in... I can't see him taking advantage of a situation like Punk did to win the title. Maybe he'd do something like RVD and pick a date for his title shot(even though I always thought that was the dumbest strategy EVER!). I guess it COULD be Christian, but I'm just not all together convinced that Vince is ready to forgive him for jumping to TNA just yet.
Yeah the blood being gone really hurts the WWE, it made that Orton Trips match last year even worse. Plus I agree that everyone wants to see Bret bloodied so I have no idea. I think their ppv's should go back to being TV-14.
Looks like their just throwing them together because of the forever going Morrison/Miz beef. They should both be in MITB to be honest but whatever. I guess it could help Morrison being on both shows. And I agree a heel should win it but I feel like Christian's the best bet, hell he did hold the ECW title twice and was consistent in his performing there. Plus imagine if he wins, Edge wins then Christian pins him the same night. Boom Edge/Christian/Jericho Ladder match.
Yeah, if nothing else, Mania should at least be TV-14. If they did ONE TV-14 event all year, who would really gripe about that?
Ha, well dude, it's not like the ECW belt actually meant anything. ;-) Hell, IMO it would probably rank at about the same level as the Cruiserweight belt, and you KNOW Vince could care less about that belt. So you'd have Christian win it and turn heel right away? I'd still rather see a younger/newer guy(Swagger/Kofi)take it.
Yeah, I don't think anyone would care, hell it's their biggest show of the year, everyone expects blood, it enhances a match when done right.
Lol yeah the ECW title didn't mean anything but I think it still showed Christian and rally fans and is marketable. I mean he's not Cena or anything but the guys over. And I'd probably have him play Face or Tweener, and have Edge play whichever he isn't and keep Jericho as Heel.
I agree, I'd rather it goes to Kofi or Swagger but they've dimished Swagger so much, making him lose matches to Santino in like 45 seconds it'd be hard to make him look serious. I'd take Kofi over anyone in the match.
Yeah, exactly. I'm not saying that every match on the card should have color, but the finale of the 10 year old Vince/Bret thing should DEF have blood.
So you'd turn Edge back heel already? Since he's facing Jericho, I'm going to guess that he is still a face right?
Jeez, I hope it's not true that Swagger is jobbing to Santino in 45 seconds... Man, they should let him win the MitB match as an apology!
I agree with you bro, Blood would help that so much. It's a feud over ten years in the making and as the final chapter you just truly expect to see Bret standing triumphant over a bloody, battered Vince McMahon.
Well that's the thing, He's Face kinda by default. He hasn't changed and pandered to the crowd, he's still doing the same thing he did a year ago as a heel, whereas Christian who's embracing the crowd would be more of a Face as Edge could play the tweener role, getting cheered when Spearing Jericho then turning around and Spearing Christian to get boos, that way he's the unpredictable guy who just wants the belt. And after the feud you could always turn him face by having him shake Christian's hand and hug and blah blah blah.
Yeah dude, he jobbed to Santino in less than a minute. He also lost a match in September three weeks after he said he would finish 2009 undefeated... I like him but he needs to move to SD for a fresh start. But yeah, when ended up beating Santino in like 30 seconds to get in MITB so I guess thats his revenge?
Yeah, if ever there was a literal blood feud in wrestling, it's Vince/Bret.
Hmm, I guess I could see Edge in the tweener role then. It kind of makes you wonder what the E is going to do with him after his feud with Jericho is over. Do you leave him a tweener or switch him to a more definitive spot.
See, I don't get that logic at all... By jobbing Swagger to Santino in 45 seconds you're hurting Swagger and not helping Santino, because he's pretty well entrenched in the comedy face spot, which will only get you so far. And by having Swagger squash the comedy face, you aren't doing either guy any favors since the crowd doesn't see Santino as a real threat anyway.
I could see them turning him face but there's not really alot of heels on Smackdown. There's Jericho, um... Batista, and Drew McIntyre who's the IC champ and that's pretty much it. They'd need to send some guys from RAW over for him to feud with because their kinda heavy on the faces on SD.
Exactly. Weird thing is, they'll have Swagger go like 12 minutes with Cena or Trips in a good match, then turn around and lose to MVP in like two minutes.
Well, one easy fix would be to send Swagger over to Smackdown since they're lacking in heels. Anyway, isn't there usually a draft a few months after Mania usually?
Yep, he needs to go there badly. Oh and the last space in the MITB went to Evan Bourne instead of Kofi. He never even had a match to qualify. Tonight they also added HHH vs. Sheamus, and made Taker vs. HBK no DQ at Mania.
Oh and TNA debuted on Mondays, turned Sting Heel with AJ Styles and Flair, RVD debuted and they got Jeff Hardy.
You know, I like Bourne and all, but he has even less of a chance to win the match then Kane has! I know he's there simply for some crazy spots, but I'd def had prefered to see Kofi in there, since you could argue that Kofi had a legit shot at winning it... HHH/Sheamus, meh. Taker/HBK no DQ makes me think that there's going to be some kind of shenanigans to end that match... A run-in or something...
First off, why is Sting even still around?!? Secondly, why the HELL would you turn him heel? Are the fans really going to boo him on a regular basis? As for the other two, no real surprise. The schedule is light enough for RVD to make some easy money, plus he's a name, and as for Hardy, he'd best make as much $ as he can before his court case comes up!
I was also thinking that there may be a run in due to that but I hope not. As for Kofi I'm perplexed as to why he isn't on the card. Dude was in the final 4 of the Rumble, the elimination chamber and gets left off of Mania? They better find some way to get him on that card because he deserves it.
Exactly dude. Why the hell is Sting even there?! Sting, Hogan, Nash, Hall, Flair? When did this become WCW? I think both RVD and Hardy just wanna be able to smoke their weed with no fines, get money and like you said, have a reduced schedule.
You know, I mentioned that to someone else the other day. Would definitely work and turn Trips heel, I'd just hate for that match to be cheapened by an interference, especially after how good their match last year was.
He must have mistakenly took the last bottle of water before Triple H's entrance. That's INSTANT jobber status right there.
Plus WWE is doing 2000 dollar fines for their Marijuana violations now so you know those two would go broke in days.
You know how HHH is... I'd bet good money that since he's not in a big match at Mania this year, he's angling to get himself into the biggest match somehow.
Good point...man Now I'm gonna be waiting for him to run down. oh and they've made a MITB PPV in July, and rumor is whoever wins at Mania will cash it in sooner than later, maybe even Mania night.
Lmao @ Hours. Remember the shirts? "No one gets Higher, than RVD."
Hey look, it's Match, before he became a dull, Bizarro rip-off!
I think it's kind of a shame that so much of Superboy's history has now been brushed aside. I hated this version of the character, but it's almost like there's no connection between his current conception and the 90's one.
ReplyDeleteI mean, it's easy to draw parallels between Superman's character today and the long haired version from the 90's, as they're obviously the same character. Superboy doesn't feel that way to me.
But now that I think about it, that's also true of Wonder Girl and Impulse. I'd like to think that it's due to them "growing up", but the storytelling doesn't feel that organic.
I'll just blame it all on Infinite Crisis and call it a night. Thanks for letting me think that one out loud, X-Man.
p.s. Can you do a Black Panther week or a classic Dazzler week sometime soon?
You know Kello, that's been my major complaint about Superboy for the longest time... We all know how much I love Geoff Johns work, but I HATE what he's done with SB... Like you stated, the current SB is practically NOTHING like the 90's one, and I may be in the minority, but I liked the jerky SB from the 90's. Of course there's nothing like the Impulse/Kid Flash/Flash/Kid Flash transformation... Don't even get me started on THAT!
ReplyDeleteI love the, "Blame it on Infinite Crisis" excuse! Next time I go to the Laundromat and I wind up losing a sock, I'm simply going to blame it on Infinite Crisis!
Oh, and as for the Black Panther/Dazzler request, it IS a Marvel spotlight week coming up this Monday... Hmmm...
ReplyDeleteMan, Match sure has gone down hill. Seems like Inertia is the only good clone now days. Also, I did not know you took requests, lol. I'm still lobbying for a Venom week.
ReplyDelete"Man, Match sure has gone down hill." Hasn't he though? How he went from the guy in this scan, to what he bacame, I have no clue. I guess cloning in the 30/31st century(Inertia's time)is way better then it is nowadays!
ReplyDeleteJT, right up in the banner I ask for requests!
:p Since my brother has most of my older Spidey books, I'm not exactly sure how many Eddie Brock Venom appearances I have. I think I have most of his minis from the 90's, as well as a few sporatic appearances in odd books like Darkhawk, so I could do a Venom week, it would just take some digging. As it is, I'm kind of leaning towards Dazzler, since I don't think I've spotlighted any x-characters from the 80's yet. Who knows though, it all depends on what comics I decide to dig out tomorrow.
Ah got ya. :P I actually figured that, I just didn't wanna believe it. :( Lol jk Alrighty, well I wanna change my vote for an upcoming Marvel week to Sentry, I'd like to know a little more about that dude.
ReplyDeleteI was close to doing a Daken week actually, but I was just feeling too lazy to find his various appearances... That's why I ended up doing a Cable week, all of his comics were sitting in a crate, all in order. Yeah, I can be pretty lazy at times.
ReplyDeleteLol well can we get one or two Cable & Deadpool scans? :)
ReplyDeleteUgh, that's right, Cable/Deadpool! I just pulled all of the solo Cable issues out... Well, maybe come Saturday I'll go and pull 2 or 3 Cable/Deadpool comics out and post 'em.
ReplyDeleteSweet, I'll be looking forward to it. DON'T LET ME DOWN! :P Lol just kidding.
ReplyDeleteYipes, well when you put it that way, I'd better make sure to post those pics!
ReplyDeleteLol Looks like I'M Triple H. But nah really, thanks in advance if ya do get a chance to post em.
ReplyDeleteYeah, I'm going through my Cable pile pretty quickly, so I should be up to some of the Cable/Deadpool stuff prob by Saturday.
ReplyDeleteSweet, I can't wait. Hm...do you have enough comics for a Deadpool week?
ReplyDeleteDo I have enough comics for a DEADPOOL week?!? Is the sky blue? Dude, I DEF have enough DP comics. I have his early New Mutants appearances, his X-Force stuff, his minis and his very rare series from the mid 90's. Oh yeah, I could def do a sweet DP week.
ReplyDeleteThat's all I needed to hear, I'll go make my picket signs now and start chanting for an upcoming Deadpool week.
ReplyDeleteA Deadpool week would be really easy too, since I know exactly where my Deadpool comics are(right near the Cable ones). Hmm, A Deadpool week... I think I know what I'll be posting soon...
ReplyDeleteLooks like my plan of manipulating you for a Deadpool week worked. Looks like a certain Mr. Wade Wilson owes me 20 bucks!
ReplyDeleteHm...now I just gotta see who ya pick for good ol DC week then BOOM! Deadpool appears. It'd be cool if this DC week was Deathstroke, since Deadpool is kinda based on him.
I guess I could do a Deathstroke week... The only thing stopping me is the fact that I'd have to go digging through like 7 different crates to find the various Slade books... Hmm, I could do two old Teen Titans, a Nightwing, an Identity Crisis, that Faces of Evil one-shot, the Last Will and Testament... Hey, you know what, I think I finally know which DC character I'll be spotlighting this week! Thanks buddy!
ReplyDeleteAwesome! Glad I could help, plus the comics you named have me looking forward to them even more. I loved his appearances in Faces of Evil, Last Will, and of course Identity Crisis. Glad I could help once again, consider that one of the two favors I owed ya! Lol jk.
ReplyDeleteHey, I thought those favors had expired! If I had known they were still active, I'd have went for something better!
ReplyDeleteLol you have until April if I recall. Time is winding down mon frere. Hm... I just realized you took my advice on Deathstroke AND Deadpool week...looks like we know who's really running this blog. :P Lol jk
ReplyDeleteHa!!! Hey, that's right, what's going on here?!? Are you sending me some kind of hypnotic subliminal messages through my computer screen or something!
ReplyDeleteYep, I'm entering in backwards words like Zatanna. !elur I. Lol I think you're just taking my advice because I'm really Triple H and YOU'RE Shawn Michaels. :P
ReplyDeleteAhh, that makes sense... Damn you and your manipulation Triple JT!!!
ReplyDeleteMuahahahaha! Oh, I forgot to tell you. Raw was awful this week, and apparently some woman driver "hit Bret Hart" in the parking lot and smashed his leg between her car and the limo, so now he can't wrestle Vince or some stupid storyline. The dumbest part was they had the nerve to call it the worst Night of his life. Not when his Brother Owen died or not when he almost died from a Stroke but him getting fake hit with a car is the worst night of his life.
ReplyDeleteAh well, I hate to say it, but that was def no shock to me. Like I've been saying all along, there is NO way Bret could EVER be cleared to wrestle again. The guys one slight bump on the noggin from being six-feet under. With his concussion history and the stroke, he could never safely work a match again, unless he was totally suicidal.
ReplyDeleteUgh, I hate when the announcers do the whole really "serious voice" for something that's an obvious work like that...
Dude...there's this guy who writes articles named John Canton. I may link you to one of his reviews because you guys are so similar. Same joking manner in your reviews, he calls the serious voices ~SERIOUS VOICES!~ And I think you'd enjoy them.
ReplyDeleteYou're right about Bret, I really hope they just go with the John w/ Bret vs. Batista w/ Vince thing. Oh, Ted Dibiase and Antonio Inoki are both being inducted into the WWE Hall of Fame.
Cool, I'd def give 'em a read. I kind of like the idea of Cena/Batista w/ Bret and Vince in the corners. Hell, add a stip to the match where the winner and his cornerman gets 2 minutes alone with the loser's cornerman, that way you could still get some physical closure to the Bret/Vince thing, without Bret having to work a match. Cena wins, hits Vince with the FU, and Bret smacks Vince with the ringbell, and locks on the Sharpshooter until Vince passes out. Makes perfect sense to me, plus gives the longtime fans the Bret/Vince confrontation one final time.
ReplyDeleteI love that Dibiase is getting his due. He was def about 10 years ahead of his time. Hell, his gimmick was SO good, JBL wound up reusing it and it was STILL gold! Great in the ring and on the mic, the Million Dollar Man was awesome. Can't say I've ever seen one of Inoki's matches though... I've heard of him, but I can't recall ever seeing his work.
The stip with those them getting time with the losers cornerman is genius. That'd definitely be a great stipulation to add.
ReplyDeleteI've also heard of Inoki but never seen any of his matches either. I agree that Dibiase is one of the best characters of all time dude. That belt is just one of the reasons why he's one of the best. Who makes their OWN BELT with diamonds?! There's also rumors of Stu Hart also getting inducted this year, hell OWEN should be inducted.
Yeah, the Million $ Belt was an awesome idea. I also love that he screwed Hogan out of the title with crooked referees, which let Andre beat Hogan, and then PAID Andre money to give him the title! That was an awesome storyline, especially for back in the day.
ReplyDeleteI've said it before, but I'll gladly say it again, Owen was one of, if not my all-time favorite wrestler. He could rival Bret in pure technical wrestling, while having Bret beat on the mic, and athletically. Even though he never held the big title, I'd def rank him in the HBK/Angle area when it comes to all around talent.
Exactly. That's stuff you'd expect to see in the attitude era or something, so I can only imagine it back then. I love when he was gonna pay the kid to dribble the ball fifteen times then he kicks it away. Classic Heel.
ReplyDeleteI agree, he was such a great athlete and he was awesome. The Black Hart thing is just genius and I loved when they teamed him up with British Bulldog. That's a hell of a tagteam, especially with Cornette Managing.
That segment is one of the first things I think back to when I think of Dibiase, the kid and the basketball... That was one of the best heel tactics I think I've ever seen! I LOVE the look on the kids face after Dibiase kicks the ball away... Man, that is some awesome stuff.
ReplyDeleteI always thought it was a shame that Vince never seemed to have the confidence that Owen could run with the WWF(E) championship. There were so many times he could have gotten that title(Bob Backlund's quickie reign was the perfect spot)... I would have taken Owen as the champion any day over the horrible face Diesel reign from the mid-1990's...
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ReplyDeleteYeah they put that in his induction video, as well as when he closes the public pool so he can tan next to it. That was awesome.
ReplyDeleteYeah, didn't Diesel hold it for like a year too? Man Owen as champ taking on guys like Bret, Shawn, Davey Boy, Stone Cold, it would've been awesome.
Yup, the Diesel character was one that should have stayed heel. He had the look, the attitude, everything about Nash back then screamed "heel!", but Vince saw a big guy, and decided to make Diesel into this terrible face... Kind of like Cena actually. I still say Cena would work ten times better as a heel. And just because I'm such a wrestling nerd, I'll give you the story on where I think Owen should have won the title. Bret was defending the belt against Backlund at a PPV(Survivor Series, blanking on the year tho)in a towel match, where the only way to win was if your corner man threw in the towel... Yeah. Owen was in Backlund's corner, and I think Stu Hart was in Bret's. Bret ends up getting trapped in the crossface chicken-wing, and is in it for like(no exageration)10 minutes! Owen pleads with Stu to throw in the towel for Bret's health, but Stu won't, so Owen convinces his mother, who was at ringside to take the towel from Stu and throw it in, ending the match and giving Backlund the title. Then like 1 or 2 nights later, at a house show, Diesel beats Backlund in like 7 seconds to win the belt. I'll never get why they didn't have Owen take the belt from Bret(he's already proved he could beat him at WM 10), and then have Owen and Diesel start a program for the strap while Bret was "injured". That way Vince could have still given the belt to Nash, like he wanted, but you also would have tested out a longer run for Owen down the road, instead of hotshotting the title to Backlund who was WAY over the hill by that point. Just one more big missed opportunity I guess...
ReplyDeleteI remember seeing that. That's the perfect way to start a feud, you have Bret pissed at Owen and could work as the heel or easily have Own the heel saying he was looking out for Bret. That would be a awesome feud and a great way to start it.
ReplyDeleteSay what you will about Diesel's run but I loved his match with HBK when he lost it. Fantastic match, also a great match that I love for some reason is the Summerslam with HBK vs. Vader. Man that was such a good match in my eyes, perfect big man/little man match.
Yeah, but come on, back then, HBK could have a frigging classic with a broomstick! ;-) Then again, I guess he still can...
ReplyDeleteI remember that match, but for a few different reasons... First off, although I was a big fan of HBK as a kid, I REALLY wanted Vader to win the title there... He was on fire when he first entered the E, and I really thought he was going to go over Shawn. I hated the ending for that match(restarting the match like 3 times???), and I'll always remember the fact that Vader somehow sets up incorrectly for Shawn while HBK is up on the top rope, which leads to HBK hoping off and pretty much bitching Vader out in the middle of the match! That's like the main thing that stuck in my head about that match.
I'd watch Michaels wrestle a Broomstick, hell I could see that at Wrestlemania and not complain. :P
ReplyDeleteLol I remember that match restarting three times and I admit that's stupid as hell, but I loved the athletic portion of that match. Vader is one of my favorite big guys along with Taker and Kane before he lost his mask. Also Shawn bitching out Vader was pretty damn funny, just because he's little HBK and Vader's so huge, but I'm glad Shawn's changed since then.
Speaking of that, did you ever see HBK vs. Hogan at Summerslam?
Ha! That's exactly the thing about Shawn screaming at Vader! I mean, if Vader wanted, he probably could have literally knocked HBK's head off! I totally agree about Vader too. His WWF(E) run should have been so much better. I'm still not sure why he never wound up with the gold...
ReplyDeleteYeah, I did catch that one. I guess they're going to go a similar route booking the Taker/HBK match for Mania this year. Hotshot Shawn as a heel for this one angle, and then have him just go back to a face whenever he returns from his "retirement".
Vader's one of the few big guys that could move, I'd love to see him and Taker tear it up to be honest. And yeah, Vader could play the monster heel, or they could've teamed him up with a smaller dude like Owen and had a hell of a team on their hands.
ReplyDeleteI'm fine with Shawn playing a heel role. I think by adding the "retirement angle" that it still keeps him face because the fans that really like him will actually want him to beat the streak.
Okay, so remember that Hogan/HBK match, HBK was supposed to go over, and Hogan apparently claimed he hurt his knee moving so he was gonna call off the match. Then they changed it and said Hogan would go over so he decided to work the match, which pissed Shawn off, which is why if you watch the match Shawn is overselling everything Hogan does until the point where it's just funny. Like when he takes the big boot from Hogan he falls, gets up, runs in a circle then just falls again. I always thought Hogan was a jerk for only working when he gets to go over.
Yeah, anybody who weighed about 400 lbs+ and could bust out a frigging moonsault was awesome in my book! Plus Vader had the look of a guy you just wouldn't want to piss off! I mean I know if he was coming at me, I'd sure as HELL run away!
ReplyDeleteHeh, I didn't know(or maybe didn't remember)that! Yeah, that's the problem with Hogan(and pretty much all of the top guys in WCW). The creative control clause... I mean, I know for a fact it was written in Hogan's WCW contract that he could veto anything he wanted, and before long a lot of guys(like Nash)ended up with a similar clause. No wonder WCW fell apart...
And although Hogan's probably the worst when it comes to deciding when and if he has to job, he's not the only one. I know Austin pulled that a few times, and let's not forget about HBK's infamous, "lost smile"...
Yeah Big Van Vader, the man who's eye popped out during a match and he finished the match. That's one tough SOB. But man, they brought him back in like 05 for some reason and when he got out of the ring he lost his balance and fell down and that was one of the funniest things I've seen on RAW since The Rock left.
ReplyDeleteI'd heard about Austin not wanting to job to Lesnar which is fair because Austin's earned that right and Lesnar had only been in the WWE for a year and we see how that ended up. And HBK was an ass in the past, we all know that, but for Hogan to not wanna lose to Michaels who's been in the business for over 20 years is just crazy, It's not like it would hurt Hogan. He's lost to guys like Rock and Angle and Trips and it hasn't diminished his worth, ya know?
Eh, I get Austin's arguement about Lesner, but still, does it really matter if you lose? That's prob the thing that bugs me the most about top guys not wanting to job, it's not like a loss is going to take away you chance to main event Wrestlemania or anything! I can understand guys who are lower down the ladder, or who aren't over with the fans not wanting to job, but come on, if a guy like Cena jobbed for 4 straight weeks, would that really hurt his status in the eyes of the fans? He'd still be getting promo time, and he'd still be at or near the top of the card. The way I see it is if you're a top guy and you're told to job, then do it, because most likely some older guy jobbed for you to help you get over.
ReplyDeleteOh, and I watched some highlights from the HBK/Hogan match again on Youtube to refresh my memory, and DAMN was HBK LOL funny! The best part is when HBK is flying all over the place in the ring, and King says something like, "Maybe Shawn has TOO much energy tonight..."
I agree with you, thats like the month before he won the title Jericho jobbed to Morrison, and a few other people and I recall him even letting JTG of Cryme Thme get a win over him, now he's the World Champ and it didn't hurt him, hell it helped JTG and didn't damage Jericho at all.
ReplyDeleteLol right?! I loved when he was on the ropes and Hogan kicks him and he flies like two feet up. That was awesome. HBK oversold so much it just turned into a comedy match.
Exactly. That is a perfect example. If anything, that makes the midcard look EVEN stronger, because now you'll get some fans thinking, "If JTG(for example)could beat Jericho then, maybe he can do it again for the title!". On the other hand, if you've got a guy like Austin, who wouldn't job to some wrestlers, if he fights somebody like Morrison for the title, there ain't NOBODY who is going to give Morrison a snowball's chance in hell of beating Austin. Now if Jericho would fight Morrison for his title, maybe you'd get a few fans to buy into the fact that Jericho's title could be in some serious jeopardy.
ReplyDeleteMan, there were SO many hilarious parts to that match... Besides the Big Boot, there was when Shawn was on the apron, Hogan punches him, and HBK goes flipping off the apron onto the floor. HBK looked like a rubber ball out there with the way he was bouncing all over the place!
That's why I hate that guys like Triple H BARELY job. Remember Shelton beat Trips Twice? That was awesome and made everyone take him seriously. If they let someone like Kofi get a win over a huge star like Trips or HBK it'd make him look great and everyone would believe he's a credible threat for the belt whereas it won't diminish Trips or HBK, it's like Jericho's the only top guy that doesn't mind losing cleanly.
ReplyDeleteMan, I loved HBK so much after seeing the highlights of that. It's already kinda absurd that someone Hogan's age that not as in shape as someone like Flair could even hang with HBK in the first place, then it just became a huge joke.
Yeah, if you have a company full of guys who won't job to younger talent, or who only lose thanks to shenanigans, you won't be able to build up the next big star... Guys like HHH, HBK, Taker, Cena and Jericho are all at a point where they could easily absorb losses and not be diminished in the process.
ReplyDeleteIt's almost like Shawn was saying, "I know this guy can't do anything in the ring, so I'll just fight myself." I mean, really, at that point in his career, what was Hogan able to do in the ring? My guess is some sad looking punches, a headlock, the Boot and the legdrop. In a way, it's like HBK was proving that he could LITERALLY have a good match with a broomstick!
I agree dude, Sheamus as much as I hate it beat Cena for the belt and it didn't hurt Cena at all yet made Sheamus a main eventer over night. If Edge or Jericho or someone let Kofi or Morrison beat them they could EASILY be at the top of the card. Hell they don't even have to win. Remember that awesome match in 2005 with HBK and SHelton? They went like 15 minutes and made Shelton look like a million bucks.
ReplyDeleteHe could BARELY do the legdrop dude. I'm convince HBK, Jericho and Angle can carry damn near ANYONE to a amazing match. Imagine those three in a triple threat match, it'd be amazing.
Btw whats your favorite Triple Threat? Mine are the one from Sumemrslam with Trips/Rock/Angle and the one from Vengeance 2002 where Rock won his 7th WWE Title with Rock/Angle/Austin because it was in Detroit and I got to go and it was awesome.
Yeah, but that's another problem... Even if a guy like Sheamus or Shelton or Kofi and Morrison for that matter gets put over by say Jericho, they need to maintain some of their momentum. Looking back, Shelton's wins over guys like HBK and HHH never really amounted to anything because his pushes were always so half-hearted. One week he's putting on an awesome match with HBK, while the next he's jobbing to some midcarder. Or he'll get a big win over HHH, and then he's stuck in a go nowhere tag team... If the E is going to push somebody, they need to REALLY push somebody! Look at a guy like Cena. He was getting big wins against Big Show, JBL for the title, HHH, you name it, he beat them. Same with HHH(even though in his fantasy world, nobody helped him get over), he beat the hell out of Vince, before going on the fight Mick Foley in a couple of awesome matches, before being the first heel to win the main event at Mania like ever!
ReplyDeleteHmm, I'm not sure I can think of a favorite triple threat match off the top of my head... Huh, I'll have to give that some thought...
Once again Excellent point dude, if you're gonna push someone be consistent. I hate when you depush or just like make a dumb mistake. Like they have Drew Mcintyre who's pretty much been undefeated for five months, beat Morrison for the IC belt, Sunday he beat Kane to retain it by cheating then on Smackdown the have Kane beat him clean, with a big boot. Not even a chokeslam! You build this guy for five months and have him lose to a big boot. What semse does that make?
ReplyDeleteOh, on RAW tonight for some reason I don't understand they announced Bret vs. Vince at Mania even though Bret is still in his "cast" Also the MITB so far has Shelton Benjamin, Christian, Dolph Ziggler, Kane for some reason, Jack Swagger and MVP, so two spots left.
I had to laugh at the whole thing about Kane beating this guy with a big boot, not even a chokeslam... What the hell kind of sense does that make?!? Who jobs to Kane's big boot??? Man, that's def weird... That's WWE logic for you I guess.
ReplyDeleteI really wonder where they're going with the whole Bret/Vince thing... I hope they don't pull some kind of bait and switch at Mania, because that would be pretty lame... Man, what's up with the Kane push? is it that time of year again where the E decides to suddenly and inexplicably push Kane? So who's your odds on favorite to win the MitB match out of the guys mentioned so far?
Yeah dude, he loses at the PPV for the IC Title but wins four days later to be in the MITB that he has NO CHANCE of winning to a big boot...
ReplyDeleteIm also wondering what the deal is, either this "Match" is gonna be more or Bret beating the hell outta Vince for five minutes or I don't know what to expect, Bret can't really bump can he?
I hate that the rumble comes and they act like Kane is a monster then after Mania he just goes back to jobber status again.
Um... I'd say, Ziggler has no chance since he had 7 IC Title matches in a row and lost them all and that was from like July-September. Swagger's been jobbing for months so nah, Kane is far past his prime, Shelton never wins, so the best bet is MVP or Christian and I'd go with CHristian. I'd say the last spots are for Kofi and maybe Morrison would win a last chance battle royal but my pick is definitely one of those three.
I wonder what the logic of putting Kane in that match even is... Like you said, he has literally ZERO chance to win, so why not put a younger guy in who could use the rub?
ReplyDeleteSo far as I know, Bret can't bump at all. I know he suffered a severe concussion from Goldberg that retired him, and then he would up having a stroke after he fell of his bicycle or something like that. It's my understanding that after such a wicked concussion, any kind of jostle could give out another stroke, or worse... I mean, I'm not a doctor, so maybe I'm wrong, but I just can't imagine Vince risking a catastrophic injury to Bret...
You think they'd go with Christian? It just seems like Vince doesn't have all that much faith in him... Now I could easily see either of those last two guys winning it...
Right? That could so go to someone who needs the push rather than put Kane in a match he has no place in. And the Bret thing just has me confounded, I guess he could just destroy Vince for a long time. It'll be more of an angle than a match.
ReplyDeleteWell according to Smackdown results Big Show and Miz are defending the belts at Mania against Morrison and R Truth so Morrison won't be in. And Matt is in so one spot left and that's probably Kofi's spot. So Looks like it will be Christian or Kofi as MVP's been jobbing to Miz alot and Matt jobs to everyone.
Yeah, in a way it makes sense that Bret takes the match with Vince, pretends to be injured right up until he gets in the ring, where he can simply pull off the cast and be like, "Guess what, I'm all better!" before beating the everloving hell out of Vince. My only gripe is that for a feud/angle like the Bret-Vince thing, The E having no blood is going to really hurt that match, because common knowledge says that it should end with Vince laying in the middle of the ring a bloodied, broken mess. I kind of half figure that with Linda's senate campaign coming up so soon, Vince probably needs a reason to be off TV until November(you don't want him doing something stupid that could be used against Linda), and a vicious beating from Bret would be just the thing to put Vince on the sidelines for a while.
ReplyDeleteSo now Morrison and R-Truth are a tag team? IDK, that kind of sounds like a step backwards for Morrison to me... Well, considering the guys you have listed there, I'd have to guess that either Swagger or Kofi is going to win it. Personally I prefer a heel winning it, because then they can run out and pretty much steal the belt from a tired, beaten champion, which is great heat. If Kofi were to win, I don't know how/when he would cash it in... I can't see him taking advantage of a situation like Punk did to win the title. Maybe he'd do something like RVD and pick a date for his title shot(even though I always thought that was the dumbest strategy EVER!). I guess it COULD be Christian, but I'm just not all together convinced that Vince is ready to forgive him for jumping to TNA just yet.
Yeah the blood being gone really hurts the WWE, it made that Orton Trips match last year even worse. Plus I agree that everyone wants to see Bret bloodied so I have no idea. I think their ppv's should go back to being TV-14.
ReplyDeleteLooks like their just throwing them together because of the forever going Morrison/Miz beef. They should both be in MITB to be honest but whatever. I guess it could help Morrison being on both shows. And I agree a heel should win it but I feel like Christian's the best bet, hell he did hold the ECW title twice and was consistent in his performing there. Plus imagine if he wins, Edge wins then Christian pins him the same night. Boom Edge/Christian/Jericho Ladder match.
Yeah, if nothing else, Mania should at least be TV-14. If they did ONE TV-14 event all year, who would really gripe about that?
ReplyDeleteHa, well dude, it's not like the ECW belt actually meant anything. ;-) Hell, IMO it would probably rank at about the same level as the Cruiserweight belt, and you KNOW Vince could care less about that belt. So you'd have Christian win it and turn heel right away? I'd still rather see a younger/newer guy(Swagger/Kofi)take it.
Yeah, I don't think anyone would care, hell it's their biggest show of the year, everyone expects blood, it enhances a match when done right.
ReplyDeleteLol yeah the ECW title didn't mean anything but I think it still showed Christian and rally fans and is marketable. I mean he's not Cena or anything but the guys over. And I'd probably have him play Face or Tweener, and have Edge play whichever he isn't and keep Jericho as Heel.
I agree, I'd rather it goes to Kofi or Swagger but they've dimished Swagger so much, making him lose matches to Santino in like 45 seconds it'd be hard to make him look serious. I'd take Kofi over anyone in the match.
Yeah, exactly. I'm not saying that every match on the card should have color, but the finale of the 10 year old Vince/Bret thing should DEF have blood.
ReplyDeleteSo you'd turn Edge back heel already? Since he's facing Jericho, I'm going to guess that he is still a face right?
Jeez, I hope it's not true that Swagger is jobbing to Santino in 45 seconds... Man, they should let him win the MitB match as an apology!
I agree with you bro, Blood would help that so much. It's a feud over ten years in the making and as the final chapter you just truly expect to see Bret standing triumphant over a bloody, battered Vince McMahon.
ReplyDeleteWell that's the thing, He's Face kinda by default. He hasn't changed and pandered to the crowd, he's still doing the same thing he did a year ago as a heel, whereas Christian who's embracing the crowd would be more of a Face as Edge could play the tweener role, getting cheered when Spearing Jericho then turning around and Spearing Christian to get boos, that way he's the unpredictable guy who just wants the belt. And after the feud you could always turn him face by having him shake Christian's hand and hug and blah blah blah.
Yeah dude, he jobbed to Santino in less than a minute. He also lost a match in September three weeks after he said he would finish 2009 undefeated... I like him but he needs to move to SD for a fresh start. But yeah, when ended up beating Santino in like 30 seconds to get in MITB so I guess thats his revenge?
Yeah, if ever there was a literal blood feud in wrestling, it's Vince/Bret.
ReplyDeleteHmm, I guess I could see Edge in the tweener role then. It kind of makes you wonder what the E is going to do with him after his feud with Jericho is over. Do you leave him a tweener or switch him to a more definitive spot.
See, I don't get that logic at all... By jobbing Swagger to Santino in 45 seconds you're hurting Swagger and not helping Santino, because he's pretty well entrenched in the comedy face spot, which will only get you so far. And by having Swagger squash the comedy face, you aren't doing either guy any favors since the crowd doesn't see Santino as a real threat anyway.
I could see them turning him face but there's not really alot of heels on Smackdown. There's Jericho, um... Batista, and Drew McIntyre who's the IC champ and that's pretty much it. They'd need to send some guys from RAW over for him to feud with because their kinda heavy on the faces on SD.
ReplyDeleteExactly. Weird thing is, they'll have Swagger go like 12 minutes with Cena or Trips in a good match, then turn around and lose to MVP in like two minutes.
Well, one easy fix would be to send Swagger over to Smackdown since they're lacking in heels. Anyway, isn't there usually a draft a few months after Mania usually?
ReplyDeleteYep, he needs to go there badly. Oh and the last space in the MITB went to Evan Bourne instead of Kofi. He never even had a match to qualify. Tonight they also added HHH vs. Sheamus, and made Taker vs. HBK no DQ at Mania.
ReplyDeleteOh and TNA debuted on Mondays, turned Sting Heel with AJ Styles and Flair, RVD debuted and they got Jeff Hardy.
You know, I like Bourne and all, but he has even less of a chance to win the match then Kane has! I know he's there simply for some crazy spots, but I'd def had prefered to see Kofi in there, since you could argue that Kofi had a legit shot at winning it... HHH/Sheamus, meh. Taker/HBK no DQ makes me think that there's going to be some kind of shenanigans to end that match... A run-in or something...
ReplyDeleteFirst off, why is Sting even still around?!? Secondly, why the HELL would you turn him heel? Are the fans really going to boo him on a regular basis? As for the other two, no real surprise. The schedule is light enough for RVD to make some easy money, plus he's a name, and as for Hardy, he'd best make as much $ as he can before his court case comes up!
I was also thinking that there may be a run in due to that but I hope not. As for Kofi I'm perplexed as to why he isn't on the card. Dude was in the final 4 of the Rumble, the elimination chamber and gets left off of Mania? They better find some way to get him on that card because he deserves it.
ReplyDeleteExactly dude. Why the hell is Sting even there?! Sting, Hogan, Nash, Hall, Flair? When did this become WCW? I think both RVD and Hardy just wanna be able to smoke their weed with no fines, get money and like you said, have a reduced schedule.
You know, a HHH run-in to end HBK's career would sure garner HHH the kind of heat he loves to get for himself... Just sayin'...
ReplyDeleteI don't get the thing with Kofi either... I wonder who he pissed off...
TNA=WCW 2.0 I guess. Ha, well you know the drug testing in TNA is WAY more relaxed(if they even bother)then what the E does!
You know, I mentioned that to someone else the other day. Would definitely work and turn Trips heel, I'd just hate for that match to be cheapened by an interference, especially after how good their match last year was.
ReplyDeleteHe must have mistakenly took the last bottle of water before Triple H's entrance. That's INSTANT jobber status right there.
Plus WWE is doing 2000 dollar fines for their Marijuana violations now so you know those two would go broke in days.
You know how HHH is... I'd bet good money that since he's not in a big match at Mania this year, he's angling to get himself into the biggest match somehow.
ReplyDeleteDays? RVD would be broke in hours! :p
Good point...man Now I'm gonna be waiting for him to run down. oh and they've made a MITB PPV in July, and rumor is whoever wins at Mania will cash it in sooner than later, maybe even Mania night.
ReplyDeleteLmao @ Hours. Remember the shirts? "No one gets Higher, than RVD."